Legislature(2013 - 2014)WASILLA

07/25/2013 10:00 AM Senate JUDICIARY


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10:27:14 AM Start
10:34:02 AM SB64
03:57:26 PM Adjourn
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+ SB 64 OMNIBUS CRIME/CORRECTIONS BILL TELECONFERENCED
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Meeting Location - Menard Sports Complex
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
              SENATE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        WASILLA, ALASKA                                                                                         
                         July 25, 2013                                                                                          
                           10:27 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator John Coghill, Chair                                                                                                    
 Senator Lesil McGuire, Vice Chair                                                                                              
 Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                             
 Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Wes Keller, Chair                                                                                               
 Representative Bob Lynn, Vice Chair                                                                                            
 Representative Neal Foster - via teleconference                                                                                
 Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                
 Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                
 Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Donald Olson                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE JUDICIARY                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                            
Senator Hollis French                                                                                                           
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
Representative Josephson                                                                                                        
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Shelley Hughes                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
SENATE BILL NO. 64                                                                                                              
"An Act  establishing the Alaska Sentencing  Commission; relating                                                               
to  jail-time credit  for  offenders  in court-ordered  treatment                                                               
programs;  allowing  a  reduction   of  penalties  for  offenders                                                               
successfully  completing  court-ordered  treatment  programs  for                                                               
persons  convicted  of  driving  while  under  the  influence  or                                                               
refusing  to  submit  to  a  chemical  test;  relating  to  court                                                               
termination  of  a revocation  of  a  person's driver's  license;                                                               
relating  to   limitation  of  drivers'  licenses;   relating  to                                                               
conditions  of  probation  and   parole;  and  providing  for  an                                                               
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
     - HEARD AND HELD                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB  64                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: OMNIBUS CRIME/CORRECTIONS BILL                                                                                     
SPONSOR(s): JUDICIARY                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
02/27/13       (S)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/27/13       (S)       STA, JUD                                                                                               
04/04/13       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/04/13       (S)       <Bill Hearing Postponed>                                                                               
04/09/13       (S)       STA RPT CS  1DP 1NR 1AM  NEW TITLE                                                                     
04/09/13       (S)       DP: DYSON                                                                                              
04/09/13       (S)       NR: GIESSEL                                                                                            
04/09/13       (S)       AM: COGHILL                                                                                            
04/09/13       (S)       STA AT 9:00 AM BUTROVICH 205                                                                           
04/09/13       (S)       Moved CSSB  64(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
04/09/13       (S)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
07/25/13       (S)       JUD AT 10:00 AM WASILLA                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JOHNNY ELLIS                                                                                                            
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Briefed  the  committees  on  what  led  to                                                             
today's meeting.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JERRY MADDEN, former Chair                                                                                                      
Corrections Committee                                                                                                           
Texas House of Representatives                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Discussed the mission to  keep from building                                                             
any new prisons in Texas.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE WALTER CARPENETI                                                                                                        
Alaska Supreme Court                                                                                                            
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Discussed why  SB  64  is needed,  what  it                                                             
should cover, and what must follow.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CARMEN GUTIERREZ, former Chair                                                                                                  
Alaska Prisoner Re-entry Task Force                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Discussed  her work  on the  Alaska Prisoner                                                             
Re-entry Task Force                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
KIMBERLY MARTUS, Manager                                                                                                        
Tribal Court Enhancement                                                                                                        
Bristol Bay Native Association (BBNA)                                                                                           
Dillingham, Alaska                                                                                                              
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Discussed  the culture-based  prisoner  re-                                                             
entry   program  that   the   Bristol   Bay  Native   Association                                                               
established in 2012 after acquiring federal grant monies.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
LARRY COHN, Executive Director                                                                                                  
Alaska Judicial Council                                                                                                         
Alaska Court System                                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Provided  an  overview of  the  work of  the                                                             
Criminal Justice Working Group (CJWG).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
RON TAYLOR, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                                 
Department of Corrections (DOC)                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Provided  statistics  on  the Alaska  prison                                                             
population and recidivism.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
STEVEN KING, Criminal Justice Planner                                                                                           
Department of Corrections (DOC)                                                                                                 
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT: Provided  information related  to recidivism                                                             
rates in the context of SB 64.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
WALT MONEGAN, President                                                                                                         
Alaska Native Justice Center (ANJC)                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Discussed the  Alaska Native  Justice Center                                                             
re-entry program in the context of SB 64.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAD HUTCHISON, Staff                                                                                                           
Senator John Coghill                                                                                                            
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided an overview of SB 64, version O.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ALISON LAWRENCE, Senior Policy Specialist                                                                                       
Criminal Justice Program                                                                                                        
National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL)                                                                                
Washington, D.C.                                                                                                                
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Discussed  the  provisions  of  SB  64  and                                                             
justice  reinvestment,  focusing  specifically  on  the  proposed                                                               
sentencing commission and the PACE Program.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JESSE WIESE, Policy Analyst                                                                                                     
Justice Fellowship                                                                                                              
Prison Fellowship Ministries                                                                                                    
Lansdowne, Virginia                                                                                                             
POSITION STATEMENT:  Discussed corrections spending  and criminal                                                             
justice reform in the context of SB 64.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JUDGE JAMES N. WANAMAKER - retired                                                                                              
Partners For Progress                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:  Discussed   Partners   For  Progress   and                                                             
therapeutic justice in the context of SB 64.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JANET MCCABE, Chair                                                                                                             
Partners For Progress                                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Provided  information  about  Partners  For                                                             
Progress and therapeutic justice in the context of SB 64.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BILL SATTERBERG, Attorney                                                                                                       
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:  Suggested changes  to  SB  64 and  provided                                                             
examples  of   how  working  on   a  problem   piecemeal  creates                                                               
unintended consequences.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
NANCY MEADE, General Counsel                                                                                                    
Office of the Administrative Director                                                                                           
Alaska Court System                                                                                                             
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Commented on SB  64 on behalf of  the Alaska                                                             
Court System.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:27:14 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR JOHN  COGHILL called  the joint meeting  of the  Senate and                                                             
House  Judiciary  Standing  Committees  to order  at  10:27  a.m.                                                               
Present at the  call to order were  Senators Wielechowski, Dyson,                                                               
McGuire,  and  Chair  Coghill;  Representatives  Pruitt,  LeDoux,                                                               
Lynn, Foster - via teleconference, Millett, and Chair Keller.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
             SB  64-OMNIBUS CRIME/CORRECTIONS BILL                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  announced consideration  of SB 64.  [CSSB 64(STA),                                                               
version 28-LS0116\O, was before the committee.]                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:34:02 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  JOHNNY  ELLIS briefed  the  committees  on what  led  to                                                               
today's  meeting.   He  noted  that   faith-based  organizations,                                                               
community nonprofits,  training programs  such as Nine  Star, and                                                               
the Parnell  Administration were represented. He  stated that the                                                               
hearing was  in part  a result  of discovery  that tough-on-crime                                                               
conservative Republicans  nationwide are pushing  for corrections                                                               
reform  to  reverse  the  skyrocketing  growth  of  state  prison                                                               
budgets. He  observed that  people with  left-of-center political                                                               
views  for years  have been  interested in  rehabilitation and  a                                                               
smarter  approach to  justice. He  highlighted that  conservative                                                               
Republicans are  leading this effort  in an extraordinary  way to                                                               
do  better  across the  state.  He  described  this as  "a  magic                                                               
moment"  in  American  political   history  for  making  progress                                                               
together.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS  reported that a  host of conservative  states have                                                               
begun to implement new approaches  to smart justice because their                                                               
state  budgets can  no  longer support  past  practices. He  said                                                               
that, in  this area,  leaders like Grover  Norquist are  right on                                                               
track  looking  for  better  more  cost-effective  measures  than                                                               
simply  continuing  to  incarcerate  more  and  more  non-violent                                                               
offenders at  unsustainable public  expense. He  stated agreement                                                               
with the principles  and goals articulated in the  Right on Crime                                                               
website and  acknowledged that the conservatives  are right about                                                               
corrections  reform.  He  described   Newt  Gengrich,  Ed  Meese,                                                               
William  Bennett, Governor  Jeb  Bush,  and Texas  Representative                                                               
Jerry  Madden  as a  few  of  the  leaders  who have  joined  Mr.                                                               
Norquist in this  initiative. This matters in  Alaska because the                                                               
state's  high recidivism  rate  and rapid  growth  in its  prison                                                               
population is a recipe for fiscal disaster, he said.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:37:47 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  ELLIS highlighted  that the  2011 report  by the  Alaska                                                               
Judicial Council showed that Alaska  is among a handful of states                                                               
that has the  highest prison population growth in  the nation and                                                               
an alarming recidivism  rate. In 1982, 1 out of  92 Alaskans were                                                               
incarcerated. In  2009, 1  out of  36 Alaskans  were incarcerated                                                               
and  two-thirds were  back in  custody  within 3  years of  their                                                               
release.  He emphasized  that if  the  state's prison  population                                                               
continues to  grow at  the current  rate of  3 percent  per year,                                                               
Alaska prisons  will be at  capacity in  2016. He noted  that the                                                               
most recent Alaska  prison, [Goose Creek], cost  $250 million and                                                               
has operating expenses  of $50-$60 million per  year. However, if                                                               
Alaska follows the  example set by Texas, it won't  have to build                                                               
another prison in the next three  years. That state has paved the                                                               
way on correction reform with great success.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS  described the hearing  today as an  important step                                                               
toward  a smarter,  evidence-based, fiscally  prudent corrections                                                               
system. He said  this is an opportunity to learn  from experts on                                                               
the  ground in  Alaska and  from  one of  the best  minds in  the                                                               
country on corrections reform.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELLIS  introduced former  Republican member of  the Texas                                                               
House  of Representatives  Jerry Madden  and reviewed  his career                                                               
accomplishments.  Under  his   leadership,  Texas  adopted  cost-                                                               
effective,  evidence-based,  corrections   reform  that  includes                                                               
treatment,  rehabilitation,  and  re-entry programs  while  still                                                               
providing the  necessary corrections structure to  protect public                                                               
safety.  This  is a  smarter  use  of  public dollars,  he  said.                                                               
Senator Ellis  welcomed Representative  Madden describing  him as                                                               
one of the nation's foremost  experts on corrections reform and a                                                               
great American.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:41:59 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR COGHILL welcomed Jerry Madden.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JERRY MADDEN,  former Texas House of  Representatives Corrections                                                               
Chairman,  stated that  he is  a West  Point graduate  who thinks                                                               
like a soldier  and an engineer. He explained that  he served for                                                               
20 years in  the Texas Legislature and that he  had no experience                                                               
with corrections for  the first 12 years. It  was therefore quite                                                               
a surprise  when in 2005 the  Speaker informed him that  he would                                                               
be the chairman of the  Corrections Committee. When he asked what                                                               
he  was  supposed  to  do  the Speaker  said,  "Don't  build  new                                                               
prisons;  they cost  too much."  Representative Madden  said that                                                               
became  his mission.  He emphasized  that  having a  well-defined                                                               
mission is  critical so  that everyone  can look  to it  and work                                                               
toward it. He  passes that advice along to other  states that are                                                               
looking at corrections reform.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN  explained  that  in  2005  about  150,000                                                               
people were in  prison in Texas, some 400,000  were on probation,                                                               
and 75,000 were on parole.  These numbers were projected to rise,                                                               
just like  the forecast in  Alaska and almost every  other state,                                                               
he said. Looking for solutions,  he forged a working relationship                                                               
with  a  minority  Senator  who   had  worked  unsuccessfully  on                                                               
criminal justice issues for a number of years.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:46:54 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE MADDEN said there  are two choices when addressing                                                               
a rising prison  population and building another  prison isn't an                                                               
option: either open  the door and let people out  or figure out a                                                               
way  to slow  the numbers  of people  coming in.  He acknowledged                                                               
that, in Texas, letting people  out was not politically advisable                                                               
so  the only  workable alternative  was  to slow  the numbers  of                                                               
people coming in.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
A  review of  the statistics  showed that  the people  working in                                                               
probation had  some good  ideas, and with  more money  they could                                                               
probably  do something  to reduce  prisoner numbers.  Because new                                                               
money  wasn't  available,  the only  viable  alternative  was  to                                                               
change things within  the system and use those  public dollars on                                                               
things  that work.  This  strategy has  become  known across  the                                                               
country as justice reinvestment or smart justice.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:50:59 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE   MADDEN  said   the   Texas  Legislature   passed                                                               
legislation  to  implement  this  strategy,  but  it  was  vetoed                                                               
primarily  because  it shortened  the  terms  on probation  time.                                                               
However, the  bill did have  some good provisions  like expanding                                                               
specialty  courts  and returning  money  to  communities to  keep                                                               
people  from going  to prison.  During  the Interim,  legislators                                                               
worked on  the legislation  focusing on how  to break  the cycle.                                                               
Some of  the things  that were  identified were  jobs, technology                                                               
support  for people  working in  parole, mental  health treatment                                                               
programs, and substance abuse treatment programs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN  explained  that the  Texas  Parole  Board                                                               
previously was granting parole to  people if they completed an 18                                                               
month drug treatment  program. The problem was that  there was an                                                               
18 month waiting  list to get in the program.  In Texas, the hard                                                               
bed  cost per  prisoner per  year is  about $20,000  so the  cost                                                               
savings would  be tremendous if  5,000-10,000 prisoners  could be                                                               
released 18  months earlier. Paying  for 10 more prisoners  to go                                                               
through the program  saved enough money to pay  for expanding the                                                               
program, he said.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:54:42 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE MADDEN  discussed cost  saving programs  that keep                                                               
people from entering the system  the first time. The numbers show                                                               
that  spending  money  on  the education  system  is  more  cost-                                                               
effective  than spending  money  on a  person  after people  have                                                               
entered  the  justice system.  Texas  also  changed its  juvenile                                                               
system.  Over the  long  term, investing  in  families and  early                                                               
childhood saves money, he said.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
At  the  start  of  the   2007  legislative  session,  the  Texas                                                               
Legislative  Budget Board  projected there  would be  17,700 more                                                               
prisoners in  the state  by 2012,  and 8-9  new prisons  would be                                                               
needed to  house these  people. This would  cost the  state about                                                               
$250 million  plus annual operating  costs of $40,000  to $50,000                                                               
per prison.  At about  the same  time the  statisticians returned                                                               
the  numbers  that  showed that  reinvestment  in  smart  justice                                                               
programs would work  and stabilize the prison  population for the                                                               
next five years.  He said it was gratifying to  see that the $500                                                               
million that the  governor had included in his budget  to build 3                                                               
new prisons  could instead be spent  on education, transportation                                                               
and other things to benefit the state as a whole.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN said  the result  of implementing  justice                                                               
reinvestment and smart justice programs  is that between 2011 and                                                               
2013, Texas housed 7,000 fewer  prisoners. Parole rates were much                                                               
higher,   parole  revocations   declined  40   percent,  juvenile                                                               
probations declined  30 percent, and  the arrest rate  dropped 10                                                               
percent. In 2011,  the legislature closed one prison  and in 2013                                                               
voted to  close 2 more.  In 2011, $100  million was cut  from the                                                               
juvenile  system yet  it is  better and  more effective.  This is                                                               
where "Right on Crime" started, he said.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:00:07 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN described  bringing  together liberal  and                                                               
conservative think  tanks to rewrite  the probation bill  so that                                                               
it would be  palatable to both parties.  The original legislation                                                               
was  broken  into  3  separate  bills and  the  ideas  that  were                                                               
developed began to  radiate around the country.  Since then other                                                               
groups have come  together to work on these ideas.  Texas was the                                                               
first  to  implement these  reforms,  and  now other  states  are                                                               
following  this path  and  making even  better  changes. He  said                                                               
these  are  smart  policies  that  make  the  public  safer,  are                                                               
friendlier to addictions, and cost less money.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:02:25 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN discussed  some of  the smart  things that                                                               
Texas  did within  the system  that  have been  helpful in  other                                                               
states.   He   also    offered   suggestions   and   observations                                                               
specifically  related to  SB 64:  expand the  proposed sentencing                                                               
Commission to include the entire  criminal justice system because                                                               
the charge  language is  broader than  just sentencing;  ensure a                                                               
broadly  based commission;  include  specific representation  for                                                               
alcohol abuse;  look at  the legislation  that Georgia  and South                                                               
Dakota passed; and  do a risk analysis of the  prisoners. He said                                                               
there are two  types of prisoners: the ones we're  mad at and the                                                               
ones  we're afraid  of.  For  the ones  we're  mad, change  their                                                               
behavior  so we're  no  longer mad  at them.  He  noted that  the                                                               
legislation passed  in Ohio, North Carolina,  South Carolina, and                                                               
Georgia provides good examples in this area.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:08:38 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN emphasized  the  importance of  leadership                                                               
when  working  on  justice reinvestment  and  implementing  smart                                                               
justice programs.  He noted  that some states  have done  it with                                                               
legislative  leadership  and others  with  a  combination of  the                                                               
legislative,  executive and  judiciary.  It's  also important  to                                                               
make sure  something works  and is  done properly.  Finally, it's                                                               
important  to  have  the  courage  to  make  further  changes  if                                                               
something doesn't work as planned.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN discussed  specialty courts  and suggested                                                               
adhering  to the  standards set  for these  courts. He  concluded                                                               
that the process  to pass smart justice  legislation is demanding                                                               
but it is the right thing to do.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:13:56 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR   COGHILL    thanked   Representative   Madden    for   his                                                               
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   MCGUIRE  commented   on   the  value   of  an   outside                                                               
perspective.  She  asked,  based  on the  legislation  passed  in                                                               
Georgia  and  South  Dakota,  if  he  had  a  recommendation  for                                                               
expanding  the proposed  sentencing  commission  to the  "justice                                                               
reinvestment   commission"  or   the  "justice   reinvestment  in                                                               
victims' rights commission."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MADDEN  suggested she  look at the  legislation in                                                               
those  states because  they  did have  specific  names for  their                                                               
commissions.  He  reiterated  that  those  states  addressed  the                                                               
entire system, not just sentencing.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:16:32 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR DYSON  expressed appreciation for the  comments regarding                                                               
victim restitution. He noted that  prison fellowship wants to see                                                               
the victim restored as much  as possible to their pre-event state                                                               
and  the  perpetrator  restored  in  their  relationships  and  a                                                               
productive  lifestyle.   He  said   his  sense  is   that  making                                                               
restitution  helps that  offender's attitude  about re-entry  and                                                               
forgiving themself. He  opined that Alaska is  doing an appalling                                                               
job of  restoring the  victim and getting  the offender  into the                                                               
restoration cycle. He asked for recommendations.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN agreed  that  victim  restitution is  very                                                               
difficult  and suggested  looking at  how North  Carolina defined                                                               
ways  to provide  restitution. He  noted  that prison  fellowship                                                               
opened his eyes to the fact  that it's difficult for somebody who                                                               
is back in the  community to get out of the  cycle of poverty and                                                               
that  affects   other  social  programs  in   the  community.  He                                                               
emphasized that these things should be part of the discussion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  said the committee  would look at and  rethink the                                                               
nonviolent "barrier crimes."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON  asked  if  he  had  experience  expunging  felony                                                               
convictions  from  someone's  record after  they're  released  in                                                               
order to facilitate re-entry.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MADDEN  said he worked  on an expungement  bill in                                                               
2011 and  it was a  difficult process, but  his belief is  that a                                                               
person who actually changes should be given help.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
11:23:30 AM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked  if  he would  recommend  large  or                                                               
gradual legislative changes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MADDEN replied the states  that have done it would                                                               
recommend going  big, because  the climate  may change  and there                                                               
may only be one chance.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  thanked   Representative  Madden  and  welcomed                                                               
Justice Carpeneti.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:26:53 AM                                                                                                                   
JUSTICE WALTER  CARPENETI, Alaska Supreme Court,  Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
stated that  none of  the decisions of  the legislature  are more                                                               
important than  protecting the safety  and security  of Alaskans,                                                               
providing  for the  opportunity of  all citizens  to reach  their                                                               
full potential, and  doing these things in  a cost-effective way.                                                               
Establishing the conditions that allow  justice to be done is one                                                               
of the  highest functions of  government, and the sponsors  of SB
64 deserve the  thanks of all Alaskans  for proposing legislation                                                               
that seeks to further these goals, he said.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE  CARPENETI said  he would  break his  remarks into  three                                                               
areas: why this legislation is  needed, what it should cover, and                                                               
what must follow.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
He  suggested  members look  at  the  materials in  the  research                                                               
summary on  the cost of  crime from  the Institute of  Social and                                                               
Economic Research  (ISER) to understand  why this  legislation is                                                               
needed.  It points  out that  Alaska's prison  population remains                                                               
among the  fastest growing in  the nation. There were  five times                                                               
more inmates  in 2007  than in  1981 and  the number  has doubled                                                               
since then,  during a time when  crime rates dropped by  about 30                                                               
percent. The  fact that the  Department of Corrections  budget is                                                               
approaching  $300 million  and the  cost of  the last  prison was                                                               
$250 million clearly demonstrates the need.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE  CARPENETI discussed  his thoughts  on what  a sentencing                                                               
commission should  cover. He said  crime and the  proper response                                                               
to  it is  a very  complicated area,  and the  approach that  the                                                               
legislature  takes must  recognize that  reality. This  is not  a                                                               
one-size-fits-all situation, and there is no silver bullet.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE CARPENETI  said he believes  that the  legislation should                                                               
address  in-prison,  before-prison,  and  after-prison  programs;                                                               
sentencing; and offender risk and needs assessment tools.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The  ISER report  shows that  a  lack of  availability of  prison                                                               
treatment  programs  is  an  impediment   to  progress,  just  as                                                               
Representative  Madden discussed.  He  suggested the  legislature                                                               
look  at   programs  designed  to  change   prisoners'  cognitive                                                               
thinking, because the  evidence shows that this is  an area where                                                               
the most progress  can be made. He highlighted  the importance of                                                               
looking  at community-based  treatment programs  as well  as what                                                               
happens  before  prison.  He  noted  that  Representative  Madden                                                               
discussed the importance of programs  for juvenile offenders, and                                                               
Figure 7 in the research  summary provides data from the Judicial                                                               
Council   study  on   how  expanding   specific  programs   would                                                               
contribute  to  reducing  growth   in  numbers  of  inmates.  The                                                               
evidence shows  that the high  return programs are the  ones that                                                               
start the earliest. Pre-school programs  for at-risk children and                                                               
programs for  juvenile offenders demonstrate that  the return can                                                               
be very  high if resources  are put in  the right place.  He said                                                               
Carmen Gutierrez  would talk about after-prison  programs and re-                                                               
entry. This important area can't be overlooked.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE  CARPENETI addressed  probation, parole,  and sentencing.                                                               
He  said the  Probation  Accountability  and Certain  Enforcement                                                               
(PACE) Program was  started in the last several  years and should                                                               
be considered  carefully. With regard  to sentencing, he  said he                                                               
believes it is  important to incorporate offender  risk and needs                                                               
assessment tools.  He noted that  he addressed this in  detail in                                                               
his 2012 State of the Judiciary speech.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:32:05 AM                                                                                                                   
JUSTICE  CARPENETI   reviewed  specific  provisions  in   SB  64.                                                               
Referencing  the powers  and duties  of the  commission found  on                                                               
page 4,  he suggested it would  be safer to include  the specific                                                               
language about  risk and needs  assessments if  legislators agree                                                               
that  this is  a really  important tool  for judges  to have.  He                                                               
noted that  in his  State of  the Judiciary  speech last  year he                                                               
reported that the  National Conference of Chief  Justices in 2011                                                               
endorsed  a  resolution encouraging  state  and  local courts  to                                                               
incorporate   offender  risk   and  needs   assessments  in   the                                                               
sentencing  process.  He  described  it as  an  area  that  holds                                                               
promise.  Directing attention  to subsection  (5) on  page 4,  he                                                               
said the  language might be  interpreted to include the  means to                                                               
enhance the  effectiveness of probation and  parole programs like                                                               
PACE, but it  might be safer to include that  specifically in the                                                               
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
11:33:34 AM                                                                                                                   
JUSTICE CARPENETI  suggested that  legislators might look  at the                                                               
field of  collateral consequences of conviction  (barrier crimes)                                                               
and  noted that  the Uniform  Law Commission  recently adopted  a                                                               
proposed uniform  law on  collateral consequences  of conviction.                                                               
He  said  the number  of  statutes  that  affect a  person  after                                                               
emerging from prison is astonishing and  there is need to be much                                                               
more  focused in  addressing the  risks and  the areas  that need                                                               
risk  protection.  Protection beyond  that  point  makes it  much                                                               
tougher for  somebody to go  through the re-entry process  for no                                                               
purpose.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE CARPENETI  read the following excerpt  from the Executive                                                               
Summary of the Alaska Sentencing Commission report from 1990:                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Across   the   country  governors,   legislators,   and                                                                    
     corrections officials are  trying to manage corrections                                                                    
     systems  that   seem  out   of  control.   Prisons  are                                                                    
     overcrowded,  incarceration  rates  are  climbing,  and                                                                    
     corrections  budgets  are growing  rapidly.  Sentencing                                                                    
     practices have  come under increasing attack  for being                                                                    
     inequitable   and    inconsistent   and    for   making                                                                    
     inefficient use of limited correctional resources.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     During  the  last  decade,  Alaskans  had  the  largest                                                                    
     percentage  increase   in  prison  population   in  the                                                                    
     country. It has  used its oil wealth to  keep pace with                                                                    
     this increase  by building  new prison  facilities, but                                                                    
     it cannot continue to do  so indefinitely. Other states                                                                    
     have found that trying to  build prisons fast enough to                                                                    
     keep  up  with  the  rising incarceration  rates  is  a                                                                    
     losing proposition.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Prison  overcrowding  points out  the  need  to take  a                                                                    
     balanced  approach  to  management of  the  corrections                                                                    
     system. Offenders  who present the most  serious threat                                                                    
     to  public safety,  the  violent  criminal and  serious                                                                    
     recidivist clearly  should be  in prison. On  the other                                                                    
     hand, prison is  not the only means  by which offenders                                                                    
     can be  punished. Limited prison capacity  dictates the                                                                    
     need to  create a  continuum of  non-prison corrections                                                                    
     programs tailored to the less serious offender.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE  CARPENETI said  the critical  point of  the forgoing  is                                                               
that it was  published in 1990. He applauded  the current effort,                                                               
but cautioned against allowing the work  product to end up as yet                                                               
another report  that ends up on  a shelf for an  ex-Chief Justice                                                               
to dig up 23 years from now.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He concluded that  after study the next critical  step is action,                                                               
and that is the legislature's power and responsibility.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:37:26 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  COGHILL  offered  his  belief  that  the  risk  and  needs                                                               
assessment is probably  a key element. He asked  how credible the                                                               
current  risk  assessment  is  and   how  it  plays  out  in  the                                                               
courtroom.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE  CARPENETI  replied  it's  difficult  under  the  current                                                               
statutory scheme. He  offered his understanding that  most of the                                                               
risk  assessment  that's done  now  is  done in  corrections.  He                                                               
reiterated that the Conference of  Chief Justices strongly backed                                                               
the idea of the  use of risk and needs assessment  at the time of                                                               
sentencing.  He said  the  current  sentencing structure  doesn't                                                               
provide  the opportunity  at a  very high  level, and  the proper                                                               
balance is  one of  the things that  the proposed  commission can                                                               
look at.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL summarized  that corrections does a  risk and needs                                                               
assessment, but it becomes a different issue for sentencing.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE CARPENETI clarified that the  point he was trying to make                                                               
is that under  the current statutory scheme the ability  to use a                                                               
risk and needs assessment tool is probably very limited.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
11:40:05 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  DYSON  said  his  sense  historically  is  that  a  huge                                                               
percentage of  cases are pled  out so  judges aren't able  to use                                                               
discretion about  the appropriateness  of the sentence.  He asked                                                               
if presumptive sentencing  is one of the  things that legislators                                                               
need to look at with the proposed sentencing commission.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE CARPENETI  agreed that is one  of the things to  look at,                                                               
because  a  judge  isn't  able   to  do  much  judging  when  the                                                               
presumptive scheme  has steadily  narrowed the discretion  of the                                                               
sentencing  judge.  He  noted  that  in his  last  State  of  the                                                               
Judiciary  speech  he  said  that   most  judges  will  accept  a                                                               
negotiated  plea that  is  within  a larger  or  smaller zone  of                                                               
reasonableness, but  negotiated pleas transfer the  discretion of                                                               
the judge first to the prosecution and then to the defense.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  commented that  the statistics  seem to  show that                                                               
perpetrators  that  confess  and take  responsibility  for  their                                                               
misdeeds do  disproportionately poorer in the  sentencing process                                                               
than someone  who has  the means to  retain an  effective defense                                                               
attorney.  Further, it  appears that  for some  it is  a cultural                                                               
norm  to   face  their   mistake  when   caught  and   start  the                                                               
reconciliation process.  He asked  if that is  a pattern  and, if                                                               
so, what can be done about it.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE CARPENETI replied he wasn't  sure it's a pattern. He said                                                               
a lot  is involved  in the  decision to enter  a plea  and either                                                               
confess guilt  or enter a  no contest  plea, and he  didn't agree                                                               
with  the  observation that  people  who  step forward  and  take                                                               
responsibility earlier do  more poorly. He suggested  it would be                                                               
necessary to  ask the district  attorneys their view.  He relayed                                                               
his personal experience as a  defense lawyer was that the clients                                                               
who were  able to step  up and accept  that they were  guilty and                                                               
give him  the opportunity  to negotiate on  their behalf  did the                                                               
best in terms  of how they came out overall.  A person going into                                                               
jail while  maintaining his or  her innocence, even  knowing that                                                               
wasn't true, did not set themselves up for reform.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:45:15 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  FRENCH  discussed  the  dramatic  change  in  sentencing                                                               
policy announced yesterday by the  Department of Law and how that                                                               
will affect  the discretion  that trial judges  will have  in the                                                               
sentencing decision. He  asked Justice Carpeneti his  idea on how                                                               
moving the risk  and needs assessment up to  the sentencing phase                                                               
will  play out,  if  it  will take  the  form  of a  pre-sentence                                                               
report, and who would do that work.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE CARPENETI  replied he had never  sentenced somebody after                                                               
a risk and needs assessment, but  in the states that have adopted                                                               
the approach  the probation  and parole  office does  the work-up                                                               
and  presents to  the  court  what the  use  of  that tool  would                                                               
indicate  the appropriate  sentence or  range of  sentence should                                                               
be.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:47:08 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR KELLER said he can understand  the risk analysis as a tool,                                                               
but he struggles  to understand the needs portion.  He asked what                                                               
that tool  would look like  and if  it would be  a self-reporting                                                               
survey.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
JUSTICE CARPENETI  replied there  are three  principles involved.                                                               
First, the supervision and treatment  levels should be determined                                                               
by  the   offender's  risk  of  reoffending.   Second,  the  need                                                               
principle  calls for  targeting  the provision  of services  with                                                               
specific risk factors  that will most likely contribute  to a new                                                               
offense.  Third,   the  responsivity  principle   specifies  that                                                               
treatment  interventions must  employ  cognitive social  learning                                                               
strategies. These approaches are  designed to change behavior and                                                               
are directed at an offender's specific risk factors.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He continued to explain that the  person answers a long series of                                                               
questions  and that  information is  developed into  a matrix  of                                                               
possibilities. There is  a fair amount of  discretion in applying                                                               
this tool  to the person  involved, but this  is the result  of a                                                               
lot of  research over the years.  This gives a sense  of the risk                                                               
the person presents, the needs the  person has and if they can be                                                               
met within the system, and  how responsive the person is expected                                                               
to be.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:50:31 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR  COGHILL thanked  Justice Carpeneti  and introduced  Carmen                                                               
Gutierrez.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:51:27 AM                                                                                                                   
CARMEN  GUTIERREZ, former  Chair, Alaska  Prisoner Re-entry  Task                                                               
Force,  provided   her  credentials.   She  explained   that  the                                                               
Department  of Corrections  (DOC) has  a three  part mission:  1)                                                               
provide  secure,  safe  confinement;  2)  provide  rehabilitative                                                               
programs; and 3) provide a process of supervised community re-                                                                  
entry. When  she was hired  by DOC the  commissioner specifically                                                               
tasked her  to work on  re-entry. She relayed that  Chair Coghill                                                               
invited  her to  talk  about the  Alaska  Prisoner Re-Entry  Task                                                               
Force and  her comments would  focus on  what the task  force has                                                               
achieved to date.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
She explained  that early  in 2010  the Criminal  Justice Working                                                               
Group formed  a subcommittee called the  Alaska Prisoner Re-Entry                                                               
Task  Force.  The  task  force  developed  a  mission  to  reduce                                                               
Alaska's recidivism  rate and thereby  improve public  safety and                                                               
the overall  health of  Alaska's community.  The membership  is a                                                               
broad cross  section of state  and community members. One  of the                                                               
first goals of  the task force was to draft  Alaska's first five-                                                               
year strategic  re-entry plan.  It was to  be a  working document                                                               
that would  evolve over time.  One of the best  outcomes achieved                                                               
by virtue  of the work of  the task force is  a growing awareness                                                               
across the  state that  Alaskans are not  getting good  value for                                                               
the  criminal justice  dollars  spent. For  example,  two out  of                                                               
three Alaskans return to jail  within three years of release, and                                                               
the 2013  corrections budget  is up to  $323 million  compared to                                                               
$167 million in 2005.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:57:10 AM                                                                                                                   
MS. GUTIERREZ reported that in 2002,  42 percent of the people in                                                               
prison were  non-violent offenders  and 58 percent  were violent.                                                               
In  2011, 62  percent of  the people  in prison  were non-violent                                                               
offenders  and 38  percent were  violent. She  questioned whether                                                               
this is making  good use of very expensive hard  prison beds. She                                                               
said she's very mad at the  citizens that don't follow the law by                                                               
using drugs  and commit  theft to support  their drug  habit, but                                                               
she doesn't fear them. Nevertheless,  she said, under the current                                                               
presumptive sentencing scheme, many  Alaskans are going to prison                                                               
for two to four years for that kind of behavior.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. GUTIERREZ noted  that the task force  initially was Anchorage                                                               
centered, but  members quickly recognized  that needed  to change                                                               
because  every community  in Alaska  has  its own  unique set  of                                                               
resources  and unique  set  of problems.  With  support from  the                                                               
Alaska  Mental Health  Trust Authority  and  the Alaska  Judicial                                                               
Council the  task force was  able to hire a  project coordinator,                                                               
and she  established community re-entry coalitions  in the Mat-Su                                                               
Valley,  Juneau,  Bristol  Bay   region,  Kenai,  Fairbanks,  and                                                               
Anchorage.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The  goal of  the  community  coalitions is  to  1) identify  the                                                               
community-based re-entry resources available;  2) make sure local                                                               
parole officers  are aware  of these  resources; 3)  identify the                                                               
gaps; and  4) develop  strategies to fill  the gaps.  Filling the                                                               
gaps doesn't necessarily mean more  money, but more efficient use                                                               
of existing  resources. However,  until communities  are prepared                                                               
to these  receive these  people, the  recidivism numbers  may not                                                               
improve.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GUTIERREZ said  the task  force  identified several  primary                                                               
areas  to focus  on and  created specific  workgroups to  address                                                               
substance abuse, housing, and employment.  She noted that in many                                                               
cases the state's  corporate landlord will not  rent to convicted                                                               
felons.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
12:04:58 PM                                                                                                                   
MS.  GUTIERREZ discussed  collateral consequences.  She explained                                                               
that  the  Justice  Center is  funding  the  National  Collateral                                                               
Consequences  Inventory,  and  the American  Bar  Association  is                                                               
reviewing  statutes and  regulations in  every state  to identify                                                               
the existing barrier crimes. She  relayed that when she contacted                                                               
the director of  that project she learned that  the inventory for                                                               
Alaska would  be completed last. With  written encouragement from                                                               
Senator  Coghill, Senator  Ellis,  Justice  Bolger, and  Attorney                                                               
General Geraghty,  Alaska was moved to  the top of the  list. The                                                               
list is available online and shows  that Alaska has more than 500                                                               
barrier  crime statutes  and regulations.  This does  not include                                                               
federal barriers. She posed a  hypothetical example to illustrate                                                               
that a conviction for drug possession  at age 23 will follow that                                                               
person  throughout   their  life  and  limit   opportunities  for                                                               
housing, employment, and things like becoming a foster parent.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
12:09:46 PM                                                                                                                   
MS. GUTIERREZ explained that  misdemeanants represent the largest                                                               
group  of  offenders  that  come  through  the  criminal  justice                                                               
system, but there is but no  effective means of dealing with that                                                               
behavior.  Judges  and  prosecutors  have said  that  the  single                                                               
greatest deterrent  in trying to  work with these  individuals is                                                               
that  there are  no community-based  treatment programs  for this                                                               
population.  These  offenders  need   to  change  their  criminal                                                               
thinking  through  cognitive  behavioral treatment  programs  but                                                               
there  aren't  any  so  they're   sent  to  prison  instead.  The                                                               
consequence, according  to statistics  from the  Judicial Council                                                               
Study,  is   that  misdemeanants  are  rapidly   becoming  felony                                                               
offenders.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Justice reinvestment  is an opportunity  to identify  the drivers                                                               
of  the prison  population and  reinvest a  small portion  of the                                                               
money to build the next  prison into other proven strategies that                                                               
will reduce  the number of  people entering prison. This  is what                                                               
Texas has been so successful in doing.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:11:57 PM                                                                                                                   
MS.  GUTIERREZ concluded  her comments  by quoting  excerpts from                                                               
the speech  President George  Bush delivered  when he  signed the                                                               
Second Chance Act of 2007. The  intent of this legislation was to                                                               
fund demonstration re-entry projects across the nation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     The country  was built  on the  belief that  each human                                                                    
     being  has  limitless  potential and  worth.  Everybody                                                                    
     matters. We believe that even  those who have struggled                                                                    
     with a dark past can  find brighter days ahead. One way                                                                    
     we act  on that belief  is by helping  former prisoners                                                                    
     who've paid for  their crimes - we help  them build new                                                                    
     lives as productive members of our society.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The  work of  redemption reflects  our values.  It also                                                                    
     reflects our national interests.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The bill  I'm signing today,  the Second Chance  Act of                                                                    
     2007,  will build  on work  to  help prisoners  reclaim                                                                    
     their lives.  In other words, it  basically says: We're                                                                    
     standing with you, not against you.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:13:56 PM                                                                                                                   
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN   suggested  that  the   judiciary  chairs                                                               
schedule hearings to  learn about the Second  Chance Act programs                                                               
that come to the State of Alaska.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL thanked Ms. Gutierrez and introduced Ms. Martus.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
12:14:20 PM                                                                                                                   
KIMBERLY MARTUS,  Tribal Court  Enhancement Manager,  Bristol Bay                                                               
Native Association  (BBNA), Dillingham, Alaska, stated  that BBNA                                                               
serves  31  villages in  the  Bristol  Bay  region, and  in  2012                                                               
acquired a federal grant to  develop a culture-based prisoner re-                                                               
entry  program.  The  goal  is   to  reduce  recidivism,  improve                                                               
outcomes for  returning prisoners, and increase  public safety in                                                               
the region. She relayed that BBNA  is a member of both the Alaska                                                               
Prisoner Re-entry  Task Force  and one  of the  prisoner re-entry                                                               
community coalitions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
She agreed with Senator Ellis  that the search for new approaches                                                               
and evidence-based  programs is uncharted territory.  In addition                                                               
to  culture-based  programs,  BBNA  also hopes  to  address  peer                                                               
mentoring for  released prisoners, family reunification  while in                                                               
and after  prison, and re-entry  as soon  as a person  enters the                                                               
prison  system.  She noted  that  the  literature says  that  one                                                               
factor that  leads to successful  re-entry is family  contact and                                                               
visits. It has  been difficult for families from  rural Alaska to                                                               
visit  prisoners  in urban  areas  and  even more  difficult  for                                                               
prisoners who  have been incarcerated  outside of the  state. The                                                               
program  will also  have  components  to addresses  anti-violence                                                               
training, and substance abuse with a family and community focus.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARTUS said  there are  no evidence-based  cultural programs                                                               
for Alaska Natives  or other indigenous groups so the  idea is to                                                               
build on  the traditional  "Men's House" model  that is  used for                                                               
men to support and interact with each other.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:19:19 PM                                                                                                                   
The hope  is that these  efforts will lead  to funding of  a data                                                               
reporting  center and  funds for  a facility  that could  provide                                                               
residential  treatment.  For  many   people,  Alaska  Natives  in                                                               
particular, the  recovery process  doesn't start until  after the                                                               
person is  released from  prison so  these programs  and services                                                               
are very important.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARTUS noted  that  the  funding BBNA  will  pursue is  only                                                               
available  to  tribes  and tribal  organizations  from  the  U.S.                                                               
Department  of Justice.  She highlighted  that the  federal funds                                                               
that  BBNA  is  leveraging  to make  improvements  to  the  state                                                               
justice system is  costing the state nothing.  This helps stretch                                                               
the limited state justice funds in rural Alaska.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:20:41 PM                                                                                                                   
MS. MARTUS  discussed why developing these  programs is important                                                               
from  the  rural, Alaska  Native  perspective.  According to  the                                                               
Alaska  DOC  2012  Offender  Profile,   66.8  percent  [sic.]  of                                                               
offenders  who  are incarcerated  are  Alaska  Natives, and  47.5                                                               
percent  of juvenile  offenders  are Alaska  Natives, yet  Alaska                                                               
Natives comprise only 17 percent of the overall population.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She said  that Alaska Natives collectively  shoulder the majority                                                               
of  the over  400 collateral  consequences that  are codified  in                                                               
state   statutes.   This   affects  civil   life,   civic   life,                                                               
citizenship, voting, employability,  housing, and eligibility for                                                               
public   entitlement   programs.   There  are   also   collateral                                                               
consequences  on  commercial  fishing  occupations  and  wildlife                                                               
guiding,  because  some  licenses  are  no  longer  available  to                                                               
someone with a conviction history.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
12:23:15 PM                                                                                                                   
MS. MARTUS discussed the  difficulties that small, interconnected                                                               
and extended rural  Alaska families face when a  family member is                                                               
incarcerated in  urban Alaska. She  said that  entire communities                                                               
are affected, and anecdotally relayed  that extended families are                                                               
sometimes comprised of both perpetrators and victims.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARTUS  emphasized  the  importance  of  funding  additional                                                               
recidivism  studies for  Alaska Natives  compared to  the overall                                                               
population to better define the size and scope of the problem.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL noted  that Senator  French pointed  out that  DOC                                                               
data indicates  that Alaska Natives  represent 37 percent  of the                                                               
prison population, not 67 percent.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MARTUS clarified that the  statistics she cited were from the                                                               
Alaska DOC 2012 Offender Profile.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
12:27:38 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR COGHILL recessed the meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:32:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COGHILL reconvened the meeting and welcomed Mr. Cohn.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
LARRY COHN,  Executive Director, Alaska Judicial  Council, Alaska                                                               
Court  System,  Anchorage,  Alaska,  expressed  appreciation  for                                                               
being  invited to  give  a  brief overview  of  the  work of  the                                                               
Criminal  Justice Working  Group  (CJWG). He  explained that  the                                                               
CJWG is comprised of commissioners  and other top policymakers in                                                               
state agencies  that intersect with the  criminal justice system.                                                               
The CJWG was  formed in 2007 and the members  collaborate on ways                                                               
to improve  the criminal justice  system. The group  is currently                                                               
co-chaired by  Justice Bolger and Attorney  General Geraghty, and                                                               
meets about  nine times a  year. The  two main committees  in the                                                               
working   group   are   the  efficiencies   committee   and   the                                                               
prevention/recidivism committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The efficiencies committee tries to  find ways to make the system                                                               
work more  efficiently. One of  the first projects  the committee                                                               
undertook was to address the  increasing time it takes to dispose                                                               
of and resolve  criminal cases. The consensus was  that the major                                                               
contributing factor  is the time  it takes to  exchange discovery                                                               
in  criminal cases.  A determination  was made  that it  would be                                                               
very useful to conduct discovery  electronically. A pilot project                                                               
was implemented in Juneau earlier  this year and by most accounts                                                               
it is  operating successfully. A  manager has been hired  and the                                                               
project  will be  evaluated and  outcome  measures identified  in                                                               
terms of  the staff time  saved, agency resources saved,  and the                                                               
impacts on case dispositions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. COHN  said the efficiencies  committee also took on  an audit                                                               
project  of  the  way  that  public  defense  attorneys  accepted                                                               
criminal  cases. There  was concern  from  some legislators  that                                                               
defendants appeared to be getting  lawyers at public expense that                                                               
they didn't deserve.  The Court System identified  400 cases that                                                               
were  arraigned in  one week  and the  Judicial Council  reviewed                                                               
them  to see  whether the  judges  were following  the rules  for                                                               
appointment of  public council. The  information was  provided to                                                               
the court  to do background  checks on  the defendants to  see if                                                               
they were truthful about their  financial resources. In addition,                                                               
a survey  was done  of private  attorneys who  represent criminal                                                               
defendants  to  determine  whether  the criminal  rules  for  the                                                               
appointment of  public counsel were  still current,  because they                                                               
were 15 years old.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:38:50 PM                                                                                                                    
Another  area  the  efficiencies   committee  has  worked  on  is                                                               
information  sharing  between  agencies.   It  is  important  for                                                               
research and other  purposes that agencies be able  to share data                                                               
in the  criminal justice system  in a  way that is  efficient yet                                                               
secure and confidential. Members  of the Criminal Justice Working                                                               
Group have received  some training on the  new national standards                                                               
called Global Reference Architecture  (GRA), and are working with                                                               
the  reconstituted Criminal  Justice Information  Advisory Board,                                                               
which is housed  in the Department of Public Safety.  The goal is                                                               
to  develop   uniform  standards   among  agencies  so   that  an                                                               
individual is identified the same way in all agencies.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:40:42 PM                                                                                                                    
The  minor  offense  subcommittee   is  helping  to  define  more                                                               
efficient  ways to  handle  traffic  violations. The  Therapeutic                                                               
Court Subcommittee coordinates agency  funding and looks for ways                                                               
to  maximize  the effectiveness  of  those  courts. The  Judicial                                                               
Council  has interviewed  stakeholders to  make sure  that courts                                                               
are  operating at  maximum capacity.  That  subcommittee is  also                                                               
looking for  ways where some offenders  may be able to  get their                                                               
driver's  license back  and  find  employment in  a  way that  is                                                               
consistent with public  safety; at resolving issues  that came up                                                               
with a jail  closure; and the feasibility of a  justice center in                                                               
Bethel that might house the  Court System, district attorney, and                                                               
public defender.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:41:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. COHN  described the work  of the recidivism  subcommittee. In                                                               
2007,  the Judicial  Council  published a  study  of about  2,000                                                               
offenders who  were charged with  a felony  in 1999 and  had been                                                               
released from  jail for at  least three years. These  people were                                                               
followed and  provided data  for the  often cited  statistic that                                                               
two-thirds  were reincarcerated  within three  years of  release.                                                               
That  contributed  to  the  formation  of  the  Criminal  Justice                                                               
Working Group and  in large measure has been the  impetus for the                                                               
work that  the recidivism  subcommittee has done  in the  area of                                                               
prevention.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The subcommittee  reviewed a Washington State  meta-analysis that                                                               
looked  at hundreds  of evaluations  of programs  and alternative                                                               
ways  to  deal  with  recidivism other  than  incarceration,  and                                                               
identified the  most cost-effective  programs. These  ranged from                                                               
childhood   and  early   family  intervention   through  juvenile                                                               
justice.  With funding  from  the  legislature, the  subcommittee                                                               
worked  to  put  this  information into  an  Alaskan  context  to                                                               
identify  the most  cost effective  alternatives in  Alaska. That                                                               
has helped  guide the work since  then. The committee has  a keen                                                               
interest in continuing  the recidivism data and  at their request                                                               
the Judicial  Council did further recidivism  studies, which were                                                               
published  in  2011.  It tracked  23,000  offenders  released  to                                                               
Alaska  communities in  2008 and  2009, including  misdemeanants.                                                               
That  turned out  to be  significant, because  misdemeanants have                                                               
higher  recidivism rates  than  felons. It  also  turns out  that                                                               
people convicted  of lessor, C  felonies, have  higher recidivism                                                               
rates than those convicted of more serious felony offenses.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The  data  was  analyzed  in  a   number  of  ways  such  as  the                                                               
demographics of  the offender, type  of offense, and  location of                                                               
the offense.  The report  suggested that  the state's  efforts to                                                               
address recidivism  could be most  effective if it  targeted less                                                               
serious  offenders,  violent  property  offenders,  youthful  and                                                               
minority offenders, and offenders  in Anchorage and Southeast. It                                                               
showed  that  early intervention  and  dealing  with people  when                                                               
they're misdemeanants pays off.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:45:21 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  COHN noted  that Ms.  Gutierrez discussed  the Prisoner  Re-                                                               
Entry   Task  Force,   which  was   formed   by  the   recidivism                                                               
subcommittee. He  thanked Chair  Coghill, Senator  Ellis, Justice                                                               
Carpeneti,  and Attorney  General Geraghty  for working  with the                                                               
American Bar  Association to highlight  Alaska's interest  in the                                                               
National Collateral Consequences Inventory.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He  noted  that  the  committee asked  the  Judicial  Council  to                                                               
evaluate Alaska's  Therapeutic Courts and also  the DOC substance                                                               
abuse  program. Therapeutic  Courts were  analyzed in  Anchorage,                                                               
Bethel, Juneau,  and Ketchikan and  they found the  programs were                                                               
promising, particularly for graduates.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. COHN  discussed the  Probationer Accountability  with Certain                                                               
Enforcement  (PACE) Program.  He  explained that  it  is a  pilot                                                               
program  that  began in  Anchorage  and  is modeled  on  Hawaii's                                                               
Project Hope  Program. It  deals with  offenders who  are chronic                                                               
probation violators  by providing  swift and  certain punishment.                                                               
The  Judicial Council  evaluated the  pilot project  in Anchorage                                                               
and found  that it  appeared to  be successful.  However, several                                                               
areas  were identified  that needed  more data.  The program  has                                                               
been expanded to Palmer and  Fairbanks, which focuses on domestic                                                               
violence cases. He expressed hope  that the council would be able                                                               
to follow up on these programs to evaluate their worth.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:49:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  COHN   said  the  working   group  also  has   a  competency                                                               
subcommittee that examines cost effective  ways to deal with high                                                               
recidivism rates  of defendants who  are found to  be incompetent                                                               
to stand  trial. The  committee has also  become interested  in a                                                               
study  by  the   Division  of  Juvenile  Justice.   In  1996  the                                                               
legislature  changed the  law and  waived into  the adult  system                                                               
certain  juveniles who  are charged  with more  serious offenses.                                                               
The  study shows  that juveniles  that are  handled in  the adult                                                               
system have  higher recidivism rates  than those who  are handled                                                               
in the  juvenile justice  system. That  finding needs  more study                                                               
and discussion, he said.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. COHN said  the Judicial Council supports the  efforts to form                                                               
a  sentencing  commission  and  other provisions  in  SB  64.  He                                                               
highlighted that  a constitutional responsibility of  the council                                                               
is to  conduct studies to  improve the administration  of justice                                                               
in  Alaska  and  to  report periodically  on  those  studies  and                                                               
recommendations to the legislature  and the Alaska Supreme Court.                                                               
He  offered his  belief  that  the Judicial  Council  has been  a                                                               
useful resource  in the  area of research.  However, he  read the                                                               
annual reports from the previous  sentencing commission issued in                                                               
1990-1993 with  mixed emotions. As Justice  Carpeneti touched on,                                                               
those  reports could  have been  written last  week. Many  of the                                                               
same problems that were identified  then persist today, including                                                               
prison overcrowding and high recidivism rates.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COHN noted  areas where  progress  has been  made since  the                                                               
early   1990s:  eliminating   disparities  in   sentencing;  more                                                               
evidence about what works and what  does not work; using a single                                                               
identifier  for  offenders  to  make it  easier  to  follow  them                                                               
through  the   system;  more  and   better  programs;   and  more                                                               
information on recidivism.  These factors can be  attributed to a                                                               
climate change for  ways to deal with  recidivism without locking                                                               
more  people up  for longer  periods  of time.  He described  the                                                               
bipartisanship  that  the  legislature  has  manifested  and  the                                                               
collaboration  in  the  Criminal   Justice  Working  Group  as  a                                                               
fortuitous  event that  makes it  more likely  that the  proposed                                                               
sentencing commission  will be more successful  than the previous                                                               
one. If  the commission is  convened, the Judicial  Council would                                                               
be happy  to provide staff  and administrative support.  A fiscal                                                               
note has been submitted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:54:58 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN asked why  recidivism rates for misdemeanants                                                               
are higher than recidivism rates for felons.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COHN said  the  answer involves  some  speculation, but  one                                                               
difference is that misdemeanants who  are placed on probation are                                                               
not  under supervision.  That  might  be an  area  to review,  he                                                               
added.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   COGHILL  asked   about  the   working  relationship   and                                                               
authorities  of  the  Criminal  Justice  Working  Group  and  the                                                               
proposed sentencing commission.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COHN   emphasized  the   importance  of   collaboration  and                                                               
highlighted the potential resource of the Judicial Council.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL thanked  Mr. Cohn  and introduced  Mr. Taylor.  He                                                               
asked him to clarify whether  Alaska Natives represent 67 percent                                                               
of the prison population or 37 percent.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:59:59 PM                                                                                                                    
RON  TAYLOR,  Deputy   Commissioner,  Department  of  Corrections                                                               
(DOC), Anchorage,  Alaska, stated  that Alaska  Natives represent                                                               
37.16 percent of  the correctional population for  males and just                                                               
under  36  percent for  females.  He  directed attention  to  the                                                               
PowerPoint  included   in  members'   packets  and   opined  that                                                               
Commissioner Schmidt  has brought  the Department  of Corrections                                                               
forward  in   terms  of  looking  at   evidence-based  practices,                                                               
restoring lost programs, and ensuring  that the programs that are                                                               
in place  are appropriate. He  reviewed the  department's mission                                                               
statement  and  highlighted  the  goals to  protect  the  public;                                                               
reduce recidivism; delay  the need for the construction  of a new                                                               
prison   for  sentenced   offenders;  ensure   that  incarcerated                                                               
offenders  spend their  time in  custody  productively; and  work                                                               
collaboratively  with  stakeholders   to  achieve  the  foregoing                                                               
goals.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR offered  additional statistics.  In 2012,  DOC booked                                                               
40,347 offenders  into its facilities.  As of December  31, 2012,                                                               
5,955 offenders were in prison,  a halfway house or on electronic                                                               
monitoring. An  additional 6,143  offenders were on  probation or                                                               
parole. There are 13 facilities  statewide and 13 field probation                                                               
offices. DOC has 15 regional  and community jail contracts with a                                                               
bed capacity  of 157, and  8 contract  halfway houses with  a bed                                                               
capacity of  839. Electronic monitoring programs  are operated in                                                               
7  communities with  a capacity  of 385.  He noted  that in  some                                                               
locations  DOC has  doubled  and tripled  the  use of  electronic                                                               
monitoring and halfway houses.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
December  33,  2012 demographics  show  that  males represent  88                                                               
percent of the population in  institutions, 82 percent in halfway                                                               
houses, and  78 percent on  probation/parole. What  is surprising                                                               
is  the growth  rate of  the female  population. Since  2003, the                                                               
female population has grown just  over 6 percent, which is triple                                                               
the growth rate  of the male population in the  same time period.                                                               
Age demographics  have remained  fairly constant except  that the                                                               
50 and older  population is increasing, which  has caused medical                                                               
care costs to increase tremendously.  The race and ethnicity data                                                               
shows   that   Alaska   Natives  are   overrepresented   in   the                                                               
correctional system.  Alaska Natives represent 37  percent of the                                                               
population in institutions, 32 percent  in halfway houses, and 26                                                               
percent on probation/parole.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:06:09 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN asked why the  Alaska Native population is so                                                               
over represented in the correctional system.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  replied that was  not his  area of expertise;  he was                                                               
reporting the data that DOC captured.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN observed  that  Alaska  Natives and  African                                                               
Americans comprise 47 percent of the population.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR  responded  that all  minorities  represent  over  50                                                               
percent of the population.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL said  the disparity becomes very  apparent when the                                                               
numbers  are  compared  to  the  representation  in  the  general                                                               
population.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MR. TAYLOR concurred.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked if he  could speculate on the reasons                                                               
for the growth in the population.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR deferred the question  to prosecutors or public safety                                                               
representatives.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:08:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. TAYLOR  reviewed types  of offenses  in the  institutions and                                                               
halfway  houses.  He  highlighted  that offenses  are  against  a                                                               
person  such as  assault  and disorderly  conduct represent  just                                                               
over  one-fourth of  the population  in institutions  followed by                                                               
the  sex offender  population,  probation/parole violations,  and                                                               
property offenses.  By comparison, the numbers  show that alcohol                                                               
offenses  are  filling  the halfway  houses  followed  by  person                                                               
crimes,   property,    and   probation/parole    violations.   He                                                               
highlighted than  no sex offenders  are going to  halfway houses;                                                               
those  individuals  are  in  custody  and  they're  staying  much                                                               
longer. Sentences have doubled in  the last decade and 40 percent                                                               
fewer are released to supervision  than just five years ago. Over                                                               
the  last year,  the  institutional sex  offender population  has                                                               
increased one percent.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:10:08 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  asked  which  offense  has  the  highest                                                               
recidivism rate.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  suggested that  the Judicial  Council study  would be                                                               
the best reference for recidivism rates.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL surmised  that alcohol  offenses, probation/parole                                                               
violations,  and  property  violations  would  represent  a  good                                                               
percentage.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MADDEN added that  nationwide it's generally young                                                               
drug offenders  that have  the highest  recidivism rate.  That is                                                               
the case in Texas.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:11:19 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.   TAYLOR  discussed   the  three   principles  of   effective                                                               
correctional intervention: risk, need,  and responsivity. He said                                                               
the Department  of Corrections is  very averse to risk,  and will                                                               
err  on  the   side  of  keeping  a  person  in   custody  or  on                                                               
probation/supervision  longer  or returning  them  to  jail at  a                                                               
higher frequency  than simply having  a more willingness  to work                                                               
with that  person. Although that has  been the case in  the past,                                                               
DOC has  come to understand  that if the  risk isn't tied  to the                                                               
need,  people  are   returning  to  the  system   with  the  same                                                               
unaddressed  issues.  It's up  to  DOC  to  do  a better  job  of                                                               
addressing those needs when the  individual is in the institution                                                               
or when they're out on probation and parole.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:12:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  TAYLOR  discussed  the  principles  of  assessing  risk.  He                                                               
explained  that  DOC  reviewed  and  updated  the  classification                                                               
system,   emphasizing   behavioral  incentives   that   encourage                                                               
compliance with programming and  other expectations. He confirmed                                                               
Ms.  Gutierrez's  statement  that  in   the  last  10  years  the                                                               
institutional population  has shifted  from a  violent population                                                               
to a  nonviolent population, yet the  classification tools didn't                                                               
shift. The  result is  that people are  incarcerated at  a higher                                                               
frequency  and   more  highly  scrutinized  when   they  were  on                                                               
probation  and   parole.  DOC's  offender  re-entry   policy  now                                                               
includes  an  Offender  Management  Plan (OMP)  that  provides  a                                                               
roadmap for prisoners  to determine what programs  are needed and                                                               
will provide a means of  measuring a prisoner's readiness for re-                                                               
entry into the  community. In addition, Probation  and Parole has                                                               
received  technical assistance  from  the  National Institute  of                                                               
Corrections  (NIC),  and  is  in the  process  of  modifying  the                                                               
current risk  assessment protocols. These officers  are receiving                                                               
better training  in assessment  to ensure  that risk  is assessed                                                               
and  needs are  being met.  Parole board  members are  also being                                                               
educated to make better conditions based on risk and needs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:16:07 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  referenced  her earlier  question  about                                                               
reoffenders, and  commented that there  must be some  analysis of                                                               
the  reoffender  population  to  successfully  gear  programs  to                                                               
reduce recidivism.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  replied that  DOC uses the  risk assessment  tools to                                                               
determine the moderate  to higher risk cases.  Under the previous                                                               
system, too  much time and  money was  being spent on  lower risk                                                               
persons  and not  enough on  the  persons who  really needed  the                                                               
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  concluded the  presentation with  an overview  of the                                                               
substance abuse programs that DOC offers.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
   · The   assessment    and   referral   services    include   a                                                               
     comprehensive  substance abuse  needs assessment.  These are                                                               
     conducted  in  the  Anchorage  Correctional  Complex,  MatSu                                                               
     Pretrial  Facility, and  in the  Anchorage community.  Up to                                                               
     1,000 offenders per year can be served.                                                                                    
   · The Alaska Native Based Substance Abuse Treatment (ANSAT)                                                                  
     is  a  pilot program  that  uses  traditional Alaska  Native                                                               
     values combined  with cognitive behavioral  principles. This                                                               
     4-6  week   program  focuses  on  individual   sessions  and                                                               
     increased group hours each week.  These pilots are conducted                                                               
     in  the Anvil  Mountain Correctional  Center (AMCC)  and the                                                               
     Yukon Kuskokwim  Correctional Center (YKCC).  These programs                                                               
     have a capacity to serve over 160 offenders per year.                                                                      
   · The Life Success Substance Abuse Treatment (LSSAT) is a                                                                    
     medium   intensity,    out-patient,   cognitive   behavioral                                                               
     treatment   program.   This   program  is   offered   in   8                                                               
     institutions  with a  capacity to  serve over  500 offenders                                                               
     per year;  and in  5 Alaska communities  with a  capacity to                                                               
     serve over 450 offenders per year.                                                                                         
   · The Residential Substance Abuse Treatment (RSAT) is an                                                                     
     intensive inpatient treatment program  that uses a cognitive                                                               
     behavioral approach.  This program is offered  at the Hiland                                                               
     Mountain  Correctional Center  (HMCC)  in  Eagle River,  the                                                               
     Goose Creek Correctional Center  (GCCC) in Wasilla, and will                                                               
     be offered  at the  Spring Creek Correctional  Center (SCCC)                                                               
     in Seward in FY14.                                                                                                         
   · The community based aftercare program is designed to                                                                       
     complement  the offender's  custodial treatment.  The length                                                               
     and  requirements of  the program  are  based on  individual                                                               
     needs. Aftercare programs are  offered in Anchorage, Juneau,                                                               
     Kenai,  and  Palmer.  The  combined  capacity  is  over  800                                                               
     offenders per year.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR highlighted  that DOC  has  followed substance  abuse                                                               
program  completers for  2.5 years  and the  evidence shows  a 14                                                               
percent reduction in recidivism. He  reported that DOC is doing a                                                               
much  better job  of  getting people  into  programing. The  data                                                               
shows  that 65-69  percent  of the  people  who enter  programing                                                               
actually  complete  it.  Community  program  referrals  are  also                                                               
showing  increased success.  About  53-55 percent  of people  who                                                               
reenter the community  are following up with  aftercare, which is                                                               
well above the 30 percent national average.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:18:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COGHILL asked  if DOC  is  doing assessments  to find  out                                                               
whether  a   success  in  Anchorage  translates   to  success  in                                                               
Fairbanks, Barrow or other locations.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR deferred the question to Mr. King.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
STEVEN KING, Criminal Justice  Planner, Department of Corrections                                                               
(DOC), Anchorage, Alaska, confirmed  that DOC looks at recidivism                                                               
rates by program and location.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  asked   if  he  could  get   specifics  from  the                                                               
recidivism task force.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING said yes.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:19:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI  asked if  DOC had  started to  identify the                                                               
gaps that  led to the  tragic Jerry  Active case in  Anchorage so                                                               
that nothing similar ever happened again.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  replied DOC has  taken an exhaustive look  at itself,                                                               
and  speaking  for himself  he  would  never have  predicted  the                                                               
tragedy.  Secondly, when  DOC  has a  person  in custody  they're                                                               
assessed and offered programing, but  inmates can't be forced. In                                                               
that case  the person  met institutional  compliance but  not the                                                               
programmatic  compliance  that needed  to  happen.  Once the  man                                                               
returned to  the community,  there was no  time for  probation or                                                               
parole officers  to work  with him. DOC  is certainly  looking at                                                               
whether   it   can  close   a   gap   of  transitioning   between                                                               
institutional and field probation officers.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL   said  the  handoffs   are  very   important  and                                                               
legislators will continue to look at accountability.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:22:43 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DYSON offered  his understanding  that, in  January 2014                                                               
under  Obama  Care,  the  state will  have  access  to  Medicaid,                                                               
Medicare and  perhaps Indian Health Service  funds for healthcare                                                               
for the prison population.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. TAYLOR  replied a different  deputy commissioner with  DOC is                                                               
working with the Department of  Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                               
on that topic.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX expressed disbelief  that there was nothing                                                               
in  the   former  prisoner's  background  that   could  make  DOC                                                               
anticipate his actions.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TAYLOR  clarified  that  there  was  nothing  in  the  man's                                                               
background that indicated he would do what he did.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL expressed interest in  learning better ways to look                                                               
at  programs and  the  sentencing structure  to  attain the  best                                                               
outcomes possible. He forewarned that  the next questions for DOC                                                               
would focus on programing.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL thanked Mr. Taylor and introduced Mr. Monegan.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:26:38 PM                                                                                                                    
WALT  MONEGAN, President,  Alaska Native  Justice Center  (ANJC),                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, reported that ANJC  has had a re-entry program                                                               
for  about  the  last  7  years   and  it  can  serve  about  300                                                               
applicants. About  10 percent of  the participants  graduate from                                                               
the  program, and  the recidivism  rate is  about 20  percent. He                                                               
said  he supports  the  program and  he came  to  support SB  64,                                                               
because  it's a  sincere step  to  address the  issue of  seeking                                                               
equity for  everyone. He  noted that  an Alaska  Judicial Council                                                               
publication  on criminal  recidivism says  that age  and economic                                                               
status are the most important  factors related to recidivism. The                                                               
next  most important  factors affecting  an offender's  chance of                                                               
returning to  the justice  system were  whether the  offender had                                                               
mental health,  alcohol, or drug  problems, whether  the offender                                                               
had a  criminal history prior  to 1999, and whether  the offender                                                               
was an  Alaska Native. What's  worse than  that is the  number of                                                               
Alaska Native youths  that are adjudicated or convicted  of a new                                                               
offense during the first year  of release from judicial services.                                                               
The recidivism rate is 39  percent, which eerily approximates the                                                               
percentage in prison, he said.  Also alarming is that children in                                                               
foster  care show  a  predisposition to  later  passage into  the                                                               
justice system, and  about 50 percent of all the  children in the                                                               
state's foster care system are Alaska Native.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MONEGAN  said he supports SB  64 because he senses  a growing                                                               
awareness  among policymakers  that big  changes are  better than                                                               
small ones.  This legislation  offers a  better approach  than in                                                               
the  past, and  combining  agency resources  can  result in  more                                                               
widespread  improvements. He  concluded that  everything that  is                                                               
said here today  is important, but what is done  from here on out                                                               
is what will be the measure.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL thanked  Mr. Monegan  and asked  Mr. Hutchison  to                                                               
provide a brief overview of SB 64                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:38:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAD  HUTCHISON, Staff,  Senator John  Coghill, provided  a brief                                                               
overview  of  SB 64,  version  O.  The  bill creates  the  Alaska                                                               
Sentencing  Commission, modifies  law relating  to licenses,  and                                                               
creates new duties  for the Department of  Corrections and Parole                                                               
Board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section 1 discusses credits against  a sentence for time spent in                                                               
a treatment program.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Section  2   creates  the   Alaska  Sentencing   Commission.  The                                                               
membership will be  from the House and Senate;  active or retired                                                               
judges of  various levels; the Native  community; the departments                                                               
of corrections,  public safety, and  health and  social services;                                                               
the Public Defender Agency; the  Office of Public Advocacy; and a                                                               
victim  rights  advocate. The  intent  of  the commission  is  to                                                               
create  and  evaluate   recommendations  for  improving  criminal                                                               
sentencing practices. The commission  shall consider the statutes                                                               
and Court  Rules, sentencing practices, crimes  and incarceration                                                               
rates,  and  effectiveness.  Recommendations shall  be  based  on                                                               
seriousness  of   each  offense,  prior  criminal   history,  and                                                               
resource availability.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He noted that  the State Affairs Committee changed  page 2, lines                                                               
16 and  17. The commission will  be established in the  Office of                                                               
the Governor rather  than in the Alaska Court System.  On page 2,                                                               
line 18,  the second change was  to add a victim  rights advocate                                                               
representative to  the membership.  On page  2, lines  25-31, the                                                               
judge  memberships  were changed  to  either  active or  retired.                                                               
Previously  they all  had to  be active.  On page  3, lines  1-2,                                                               
changed the  member from  the Alaska Native  Justice Center  to a                                                               
member  of   the  Alaska  Native  community,   appointed  by  the                                                               
governor.  Page 3,  lines 8-9,  changed the  membership from  the                                                               
director of  juvenile justice to  the commissioner of  health and                                                               
social  services or  designee.  Page 3,  lines  14-15, added  the                                                               
victims'  rights advocate  to the  membership of  the commission.                                                               
Page 3, lines  16-17, added the provision that  the Alaska Native                                                               
community member  and the victims'  rights advocate serve  at the                                                               
pleasure of the governor. Page  3, lines 21-22, changed staff and                                                               
administrative support  from the  Alaska Judicial Council  to the                                                               
Office of the Governor.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Section 3 discusses  terminating a revocation of a  license for a                                                               
DUI  or  refusal. A  license  can  be  revoked a  minimum  period                                                               
depending on  whether the person  is a misdemeanant or  felon, or                                                               
if the  person successfully  completes a  court-ordered treatment                                                               
program,  has good  behavior, and  has successfully  driven under                                                               
the limited license for the minimum period.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The State  Affairs Committee changed  on page 6, lines  3-16, the                                                               
conditions terminating a license revocation for a DUI.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:43:06 PM                                                                                                                    
Section  4  outlines  when  a court  may  grant  limited  license                                                               
privileges. These may be granted if  the revocation was for a DUI                                                               
or a refusal;  if the person is participating  in a court-ordered                                                               
treatment program; if the court  grants the limited license for a                                                               
minimum time of either the  period of revocation while the person                                                               
is participating in the court-ordered  treatment program or for 5                                                               
years for  a person convicted  of a  felony DUI or  refusal. That                                                               
includes  the   period  of  revocation   while  the   person  was                                                               
participating in the court-ordered  treatment program. The person                                                               
also has  to provide proof  of insurance,  must agree to  be free                                                               
from  drugs and  alcohol, and  pay the  cost of  testing for  the                                                               
substances.  The court  shall  revoke a  limited  license if  the                                                               
person is  charged with  or convicted  of a DUI  or a  refusal or                                                               
tests positive for the use of alcohol or a controlled substance.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Of particular  note is the 5-year  time period for felony  DUI or                                                               
refusal.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Section 5  outlines the  procedure a person  needs to  perform in                                                               
order to go through the process.  The person must enter a plea of                                                               
guilty  or no  contest; the  court  has the  option of  providing                                                               
incentive for completing  the recommended treatment successfully,                                                               
and may  reduce the sentence  or fine or license  revocation. The                                                               
State Affairs Committee made no changes to Section 5.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Sections 6 and 7 deal with DUI revocations for felonies.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The State Affairs Committee made changes  to Section 6 on page 8,                                                               
lines 11-27.  A person's license  shall be restored if  they have                                                               
driven  successfully  under a  limited  license  for at  least  5                                                               
years, haven't  been convicted  of a  criminal offense  since the                                                               
license was revoked,  and the person provides  proof of financial                                                               
responsibility.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:46:31 PM                                                                                                                    
Section 7 has the same language that was described in Section 6.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Sections 8 and 9 address the  extension of the PACE Program. They                                                               
direct  the  commissioner  of  the   parole  board  to  establish                                                               
programs for  probationers and parolees.  It does  include random                                                               
drug  testing and  requires  the supervising  officer  to file  a                                                               
petition to revoke probation if  the probationer is in violation.                                                               
It allows  the court  to give  prompt notice  of a  violation and                                                               
take action  as necessary. The State  Affairs Committee clarified                                                               
the language in Section 8.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section 10 addresses applicability and changes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Section 11 provides transitional provision.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Section 12 provides an immediate effective date.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:48:07 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COGHILL  summarized that the  bill addresses  three issues:                                                               
the scope of  the sentencing commission, its  membership, and its                                                               
recommendation  authority. He  asked the  House members  to bring                                                               
suggestions forward and  noted that an earlier  suggestion was to                                                               
include an  attorney in  private practice  to the  membership. He                                                               
noted that  the PACE Program  will have attached cost  outside of                                                               
the pilot project  and the question is if the  cost will mitigate                                                               
other costs.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  suggested it  would  be  helpful in  future                                                               
meetings to talk to probation  officers to find out why probation                                                               
violations are so high. She  also asked for some discussion about                                                               
community  support for  individuals  leaving  an institution  and                                                               
reentering a community.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL  agreed  to  address  those  issues  in  a  future                                                               
meeting.  He noted  that written  testimony from  Alison Lawrence                                                               
from  the National  Conference of  State Legislatures  (NCSL) was                                                               
included in the packets. She also asked to testify.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:51:43 PM                                                                                                                    
ALISON  LAWRENCE,  Senior  Policy  Specialist,  Criminal  Justice                                                               
Program, National  Conference of State Legislatures  (NCSL), said                                                               
she would discuss the provisions of  SB 64 that relate to justice                                                               
reinvestment,  focusing specifically  on the  proposed sentencing                                                               
commission and the PACE Program.  She read the following into the                                                               
record:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Today   states   have   available   more   and   better                                                                    
     information  about  what  works  to  reduce  crime  and                                                                    
     control corrections costs.  Legislatures are using this                                                                    
     data  to  inform  the policymaking  process  and  enact                                                                    
     cost-effective  measures  that  reduce  recidivism  and                                                                    
     maintain public safety.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Justice reinvestment  is a data-driven process  used by                                                                    
     a  growing number  of  states.  It involves  collecting                                                                    
     data and  analyzing drivers  of prison  populations and                                                                    
     costs.  Policies  are  then developed  and  adopted  to                                                                    
     address these  factors. This strategy  is characterized                                                                    
     by reallocating  funds to support  effective sentencing                                                                    
     and  corrections  policies  and,  in  some  states,  by                                                                    
     reinvesting a portion of  savings achieved policies and                                                                    
     programs that reduce recidivism.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Since  2007, at  least 28  states have  enacted justice                                                                    
     reinvestment  reforms.  These   reforms  have  included                                                                    
     expanding  eligibility  for  community-based  diversion                                                                    
     and  treatment  programs,  employing the  use  of  risk                                                                    
     assessments and  evidence-based practices  for improved                                                                    
     community  supervision, and  revising sentence  lengths                                                                    
     and eligibility for prison  release. These efforts have                                                                    
     been supported  by a public-private partnership  of the                                                                    
     Bureau  of Justice  Assistance and  The Pew  Charitable                                                                    
     Trusts.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:54:13 PM                                                                                                                    
     On the  last page  I have included  a chart  that shows                                                                    
     South Carolina's  identified prison  population drivers                                                                    
     and  the  policy  responses   adopted  by  the  General                                                                    
     Assembly in 2010.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     SB   64   proposes   establishment  of   a   sentencing                                                                    
     commission.  A distinguishing  feature of  some of  the                                                                    
     most comprehensive  sentencing and  corrections changes                                                                    
     in recent years has  been the use of cross-governmental                                                                    
     commissions  or   task  forces.  These   have  involved                                                                    
     stakeholders   from   all   branches  and   levels   of                                                                    
     government  to oversee  data  collection and  analysis,                                                                    
     and  put  forth  recommendations  for  legislative  and                                                                    
     administrative   order.    In   some    states,   these                                                                    
     commissions   have  been   created  through   executive                                                                    
     action,  while  others,  like the  proposed  sentencing                                                                    
     commission, have  been codified. These groups  not only                                                                    
     make  recommendations but  will continue  to track  and                                                                    
     evaluate to  ensure that policy choices  continue to be                                                                    
     data-driven and that desired results are achieved.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Connecticut,  Illinois  and   Louisiana  have  recently                                                                    
     created  or redefined  sentencing commissions  to focus                                                                    
     their work  on improvement  of public  safety; ensuring                                                                    
     sentencing  laws and  practices are  fair, proportional                                                                    
     and   consistent;   and   increasing   efficiency   and                                                                    
     [effectiveness] of criminal penalties.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     A   number   of   state  commissions   have   oversight                                                                    
     responsibility for  not only sentencing  practices, but                                                                    
     also   for  prison   policies,  reentry   programs  and                                                                    
     community-based  supervision.  Some also  make  funding                                                                    
     recommendations. The  South Carolina  Sentencing Reform                                                                    
     Oversight Commission evaluates  and tracks savings from                                                                    
     policies adopted  in their 2010  omnibus act  and makes                                                                    
     recommendations    to   the    General   Assembly    on                                                                    
     reallocating a portion of the savings.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Swift  and certain  non-prison sanctions  for probation                                                                    
     and  parole rule  violations  is  a data-driven  policy                                                                    
     that  many states  have adopted  in recent  years. Data                                                                    
     show  that  offenders  who  are   sent  to  prison  for                                                                    
     technical   violations   contribute  substantially   to                                                                    
     prison  populations, and  more than  half of  all state                                                                    
     inmates  meet  the  criteria  for  substance  abuse  or                                                                    
     dependence.  Swift  and  certain  sanctions,  like  the                                                                    
     proposed  Probation  and   Parole  Accountability  with                                                                    
     Enforcement program,  hold these  offenders accountable                                                                    
     while  allowing  them  to   remain  in  the  community,                                                                    
     continue to  work, pay  restitution and  child support,                                                                    
     and attend treatment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     At  least 17  other states  currently operate  programs                                                                    
     modeled  after Hawaii's  HOPE. Five  of these  states -                                                                    
     Arkansas,   Kentucky,   Michigan,  South   Dakota   and                                                                    
     Virginia  -  have passed  laws;  the  others have  been                                                                    
     created by judicial action.  The enacted laws authorize                                                                    
     local  pilot  projects  and some  have  included  state                                                                    
     general  fund appropriations  to  cover startup  costs.                                                                    
     The laws  include a list  of permissible  sanctions and                                                                    
     require  program  evaluation and  reporting.  Arkansas,                                                                    
     Kentucky  and  Virginia  laws also  require  use  of  a                                                                    
     validated  risk  assessment  tool  to  determine  which                                                                    
     offenders are high risk.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     These  HOPE-type   programs  are  similar   to  another                                                                    
     policy, called graduated  sanctions. Authorized by more                                                                    
     than  20 states  in recent  years, graduated  sanctions                                                                    
     operate statewide and are used  for most offenders, not                                                                    
     just  those   designated  high  risk.   These  policies                                                                    
     involve clearly  established non-prison  sanctions that                                                                    
     are  delivered quickly,  and with  the severity  of the                                                                    
     sanction  proportionate  to  the  violation.  Sanctions                                                                    
     include   increased    reporting   or    drug   testing                                                                    
     requirements,  electronic monitoring,  participation in                                                                    
     treatment,  short jail  stays and  specialized violator                                                                    
     facilities.  In  many  of  the  states,  probation  and                                                                    
     parole  officers  are  authorized to  handle  the  rule                                                                    
     violations rather  than referring  the offender  to the                                                                    
     court or parole board  for formal proceedings. This can                                                                    
     decrease  the response  time  for delivering  sanctions                                                                    
     and clear up crowed dockets.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Making the  best use  of corrections  dollars is  a key                                                                    
     component   of   the  justice   reinvestment   process.                                                                    
     Effective  community  supervision policies  like  swift                                                                    
     and  certain  sanctions  help to  maximize  corrections                                                                    
     dollars by allowing agencies to  focus resources on the                                                                    
     highest risk offenders.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     The  six  states   that  adopted  justice  reinvestment                                                                    
     legislation  in   2012  have  a   collective  projected                                                                    
     corrections  savings of  nearly $685  million over  the                                                                    
     next five to 10 years.  Savings are expected to be used                                                                    
     for  increasing availability  of treatment  options and                                                                    
     supervision   technology,   training  for   corrections                                                                    
     officers   on   evidence-based   practices   and   risk                                                                    
     assessments;   and  supporting   law  enforcement   and                                                                    
     victims' services.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:59:51 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COGHILL thanked  Ms. Lawrence  and relayed  that he  would                                                               
probably ask  her help to develop  a matrix of what  other states                                                               
are doing.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MADDEN  noted that  Adam  Gelb  presented one  of                                                               
those menus at a recent Pew Charitable Trusts conference.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL introduced Mr. Wiese.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:02:27 PM                                                                                                                    
JESSE   WIESE,  Policy   Analyst,   Justice  Fellowship,   Prison                                                               
Fellowship  Ministries,  Lansdowne,  Virginia, said  his  primary                                                               
goal  today is  to show  solidarity for  the proposed  sentencing                                                               
commission, particularly the victim  component. He explained that                                                               
Justice   Fellowship  is   a  conservatively-oriented   Christian                                                               
organization that has worked for  30 years to reform the criminal                                                               
justice system  so that communities  are safer,  offenders become                                                               
law-abiding citizens, and victims are respected.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WIESE highlighted  that state  corrections spending  in 1998                                                               
was  $12 billion  and  in  2011 it  was  more  than $52  billion.                                                               
Skyrocketing  corrections spending  and declining  state revenues                                                               
is often  putting concerns about  the bottom line  in competition                                                               
with  public safety,  he said.  However, strategies  tested in  a                                                               
number of  states and  local jurisdictions  shows that  there are                                                               
effective  ways to  address the  challenge  of containing  rising                                                               
correction costs while also increasing public safety.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
He said these drastic costs  increases coupled with new knowledge                                                               
about corrections has created a  perfect storm of opportunity for                                                               
conservatives  and liberals  to work  together toward  meaningful                                                               
comprehensive  criminal  justice  reform.  Instead  of  investing                                                               
money almost exclusively  on incarceration, it is  time to invest                                                               
corrections dollars  in places and programs  that generate higher                                                               
returns. Some  things to consider  include changing  the thinking                                                               
about  accountability  by   providing  effective  community-based                                                               
programs  that  hold   low-level  offenders  accountable  without                                                               
sending  them to  prison. Crime  victims are  direct parties  and                                                               
should be  given the necessary  rights to enforce  their standing                                                               
within the administration of justice.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Expensive prison beds  should be reserved for  violent and career                                                               
offenders,  while nonviolent  offenders should  be punished  with                                                               
mandatory  supervision and  access to  Therapeutic Courts.  These                                                               
reforms are  working in other  states and the  federal government                                                               
is beginning  to recognize these accomplishments.  He highlighted                                                               
that the US House Appropriations  Committee has recently proposed                                                               
the  creation  of  the  Charles  Fulton  Task  Force  on  Federal                                                               
Corrections to review  how state criminal justice  reforms can be                                                               
replicated at a federal level.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:06:16 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. WIESE  encouraged the committees  to talk to people  in South                                                               
Dakota  about considering  implementation issues  as the  bill is                                                               
drafted.  He also  suggested consideration  be given  to renaming                                                               
the  commission   because  the   goals  are  broader   that  just                                                               
sentencing. He  agreed with an  earlier suggestion to  rename the                                                               
commission to include  victim issues and rights.  Finally, he was                                                               
encouraged to hear about the  discussion regarding barrier crimes                                                               
and collateral consequences. Judging  from some of the discussion                                                               
he heard  today he believes that  Alaska can lead the  country in                                                               
some of these reforms.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DYSON  asked Mr. Wiese  to comment on the  restoration of                                                               
relationships  and  what  that  can  mean  to  both  victims  and                                                               
offenders.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. WIESE  responded that  Justice Fellowship  is a  proponent of                                                               
restorative  justice,  which is  to  restore  the community,  the                                                               
offender, and  the victim.  To that  end, Justice  Fellowship has                                                               
instituted  programing  in  nearly 200  prisons  nationwide.  For                                                               
example,  Sycamore  Tree  is  a  victims-based  program  that  is                                                               
oriented to encourage a meeting  between the offender and victim.                                                               
Justice Fellowship strongly believes  that the victim should have                                                               
this right if he/she chooses,  because restoration happens during                                                               
these meetings.  Viewpoints and  lives are  changed for  both the                                                               
victim and offender.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL said  he subscribes  to the  idea of  treating the                                                               
whole person, and that includes the spiritual side.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
He thanked Mr. Wiese and introduced Judge Wanamaker.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:12:04 PM                                                                                                                    
JUDGE  JAMES  N.  WANAMAKER  (retired),  Partners  For  Progress,                                                               
Anchorage,  Alaska,  introduced  himself  and  Janet  McCabe  and                                                               
explained that Partners for Progress  was founded 15 years ago to                                                               
protect the  public and reduce criminal  recidivism by supporting                                                               
therapeutic justice.  He stated  support for  Sections 3-7  of SB
64, version  O. These sections create  a way for a  defendant who                                                               
is participating in the Therapeutic  Court to receive a temporary                                                               
driver's  license  and  then  a  conditional  permanent  driver's                                                               
license. He described  this as a valuable,  but voluntary, carrot                                                               
to bring people into the  Therapeutic Courts. Using an automobile                                                               
analogy, he  described therapeutic  courts as the  Cadillac model                                                               
for smart justice.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JUDGE  WANAMAKER  continued  to  use  an  automobile  analogy  to                                                               
comment  on electronic  monitoring.  He characterized  this as  a                                                               
"top of the  line" Chevrolet on the track of  social justice that                                                               
approximates  what is  done  in the  Wellness  Court. People  are                                                               
supervised and required  to do treatment. The leash  is short and                                                               
there  are   immediate  consequences   for  deviating   from  the                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He stated that  Partners For Progress is  suggesting an amendment                                                               
to SB  64 to  allow people to  qualify for  electronic monitoring                                                               
when they  have a  first DUI. He  noted that  Deputy Commissioner                                                               
Taylor indicated  it makes sense  since electronic  monitoring is                                                               
allowed for the second and third  DUI. He directed attention to a                                                               
new tracking and  monitoring device that is  a breathalyzer, GPS,                                                               
camera,  and  cellphone.  When  the   device  emits  a  buzz  the                                                               
defendant must  blow into the breathalyzer  while his/her picture                                                               
is  taken,   and  the  information   is  sent  by   cellphone  to                                                               
headquarters. He  said this and  future improved  technology will                                                               
allow people  to serve  their time  in their  communities, facing                                                               
their  triggers for  addiction with  their families  and building                                                               
their own self-esteem,  as opposed to losing all  these things by                                                               
going to jail.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JUDGE   WANAMAKER   said   therapeutic  courts   and   electronic                                                               
monitoring  are two  areas  where  it's possible  to  go big,  as                                                               
Representative Madden suggested, and get rewards.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
JANET MCCABE,  Chair, Partners  For Progress,  Anchorage, Alaska,                                                               
said  the long  term  data  shows that  the  recidivism rate  for                                                               
people  that  emerge from  community  residential  centers is  62                                                               
percent,  whereas the  recidivism rate  for people  on electronic                                                               
monitoring is  18 percent. She  then predicted that  the upcoming                                                               
legislative session  would be an  opportunity for  legislators to                                                               
make a significant change.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:20:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COGHILL said the support  is bipartisan and the governor is                                                               
positively disposed.  He articulated three cautions:  bad actions                                                               
will  not   be  treated   softly;  things   must  be   done  cost                                                               
effectively; and public safety is paramount.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  asked Judge  Wanamaker what  the deciding  factors are  for a                                                               
defendant to  agree to put  him/herself under  the accountability                                                               
of the therapeutic court, and if judges are sometimes reluctant.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JUDGE WANNAMAKER  answered that  the population of  offenders who                                                               
might qualify for therapeutic court  is relatively small and most                                                               
of the  people are aware  of who  is being successful  with their                                                               
addiction.  His approach  was to  encourage people  to watch  the                                                               
process in court and that  proved successful in getting people to                                                               
sign up. Partners For Progress  also helped explain the system in                                                               
the courthouse and by  distributing information about therapeutic                                                               
courts across the state.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked  if he believes that  therapeutic courts will                                                               
always  be  the  Cadillac  model,  because cost  is  one  of  the                                                               
criticisms in the legislature.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JUDGE WANAMAKER opined that it  will move to the production model                                                               
when the Department of Law is fully onboard.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCABE added that the  possibility for offenders to receive a                                                               
limited driver's  license is a  tremendous step  forward, because                                                               
barring all opportunity to receive a license is a Catch-22.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL asked,  because of the requirement  for twice daily                                                               
testing,  if  compliance  will be  problematic  for  persons  who                                                               
receive a conditional license.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
JUDGE WANAMAKER said the carrot  is more powerful than the stick,                                                               
and the power of the group in Therapeutic Court is tremendous.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MADDEN  highlighted that  the Hawaii  HOPE Program                                                               
provides a swift and sure consequence for noncompliance.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCABE  added that the longer  a person stays sober  the more                                                               
likely they are to not abuse.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  COGHILL   thanked  Judge  Wanamaker  and   introduced  Mr.                                                               
Satterberg.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:30:22 PM                                                                                                                    
BILL SATTERBERG, Attorney, Fairbanks,  Alaska, stated support for                                                               
the  idea  of  a  sentencing commission,  because  working  on  a                                                               
problem piecemeal  creates unintended consequences. He  cited two                                                               
examples: the  attorney general's recent announcement  that there                                                               
would not be  plea bargaining in various types of  cases; and the                                                               
Nygren  credit  (credit  against   a  sentence)  legislation  the                                                               
legislature passed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SATTERBERG  said a  sentencing  commission  is a  good  idea                                                               
because it  gives a  group of professionals  the time  to analyze                                                               
and  work on  prospective resolutions.  However, he  has concerns                                                               
about the proposed bill. First,  the proposed membership does not                                                               
include a  private sector  lawyer. The  membership should  not be                                                               
limited  to public  agency representatives.  He also  recommended                                                               
including  a  member  of  the   alcohol  or  drug  rehabilitation                                                               
community  to  the commission,  because  most  of the  crimes  in                                                               
Alaska  are committed  with tangential  involvement  of drugs  or                                                               
alcohol.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SATTERBERG addressed  the limited  license provisions  of SB
64. He commended the idea of  a limited license when a person has                                                               
attained  a certain  level of  sobriety and  compliance, but  the                                                               
bill doesn't go  far enough in the right  direction. He suggested                                                               
that use  of the interlock  should continue in  communities where                                                               
it's possible. The  sentencing commission can deal  with the fact                                                               
that it  isn't available in  rural communities. He  suggested the                                                               
committee  seriously consider  allowing the  suspended imposition                                                               
to  become available  for  an individual  who  has completed  the                                                               
Wellness  Court Program  and  has remained  compliant  for a  set                                                               
period of  time afterwards.  Someone who is  compliant can  get a                                                               
felony  removed  from  their record,  which  would  automatically                                                               
restore their  driving privileges.  He said  there isn't  a whole                                                               
lot of incentive  for a person with an  alcohol addiction problem                                                               
to become sober  if he/she won't be able to  drive again and will                                                               
be a convicted felon forever.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SATTERBERG   criticized  the   Wellness  Court   Program  in                                                               
Fairbanks for  focusing on  its success ratio  and not  taking on                                                               
hard cases. He  cited an example and opined that  the function of                                                               
the Wellness  Court should be  to deal  with the hard  cases, not                                                               
just the ones that make the  statistics look good. He opined that                                                               
the sentencing commission could deal with that.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SATTERBERG  concluded  that  he   likes  the  concept  of  a                                                               
sentencing  commission that  will  analyze the  laws rather  than                                                               
grandstanding. Alcohol and  drugs are a major  problem in Alaska,                                                               
which is why  people who work with these issues  should be on the                                                               
commission. Also, one private attorney  should be included in the                                                               
membership.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL thanked Mr. Satterberg and introduced Ms. Meade.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:38:23 PM                                                                                                                    
NANCY  MEADE,  General  Counsel,  Office  of  the  Administrative                                                               
Director,  Alaska Court  System, Anchorage,  Alaska, stated  that                                                               
the  Alaska Court  System supports  the Sentencing  Commission as                                                               
described  in  [Section  2]  of  SB  64.  The  Chief  Justice  is                                                               
enthusiastic  and   has  people  in   mind  to  appoint   to  the                                                               
commission.  She is  particularly  enthused  that the  commission                                                               
will take  a comprehensive look  at sentencing and  other aspects                                                               
of  the criminal  justice  system.  It will  not  be a  piecemeal                                                               
approach.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE said  the Court System does not have  a position on the                                                               
provision  in  the   bill  to  give  limited   licenses  back  to                                                               
Therapeutic   Court  participants   and  for   Therapeutic  Court                                                               
graduates to receive their full  licenses after a period of time.                                                               
However, the  Court System supports Therapeutic  Courts and would                                                               
like  the  program  to  expand.   Studies  have  shown  that  the                                                               
recidivism rate is much lower  for people who graduate from those                                                               
programs. She  noted that the bill  is drafted to be  used mostly                                                               
for  felony DUIs.  The judge  has  the discretion  to grant  some                                                               
driving privileges  as well as  for testing. That is  not spelled                                                               
out  in the  language of  the bill  to accommodate  for different                                                               
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MEADE  described the  PACE  Program  and reported  that  the                                                               
judges  that handle  the PACE  calendar in  Anchorage and  Palmer                                                               
believe  it is  successful, that  it saves  the state  money, and                                                               
that it is  a better way to handle probationers  than the typical                                                               
protocol.  However,  it  does remove  discretion  from  probation                                                               
officers. If  a probationer  doesn't show  for an  appointment or                                                               
fails a  test, the probation  officer must immediately  file with                                                               
the court to  revoke probation. The judge must  give an immediate                                                               
consequence,  and the  standard is  three days  incarceration for                                                               
the first  noncompliance. Swift  and certain  enforcement appears                                                               
to help people learn a lesson quickly.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:45:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELLIS  requested that she ask  the Chief Justice to  be a                                                               
signatory to  a letter  to The Pew  Charitable Trusts  asking for                                                               
help  with  technical  assistance   as  Alaska  engages  in  this                                                               
collaborative process.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEADE replied she would be happy to deliver the letter.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL voiced support for the idea.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  stated that it would  be a significant shot  in the                                                               
arm if  Pew were  to select Alaska  as one of  the two  states it                                                               
would help this year.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL thanked Ms. Meade  and reiterated his thanks to all                                                               
the  participants,   Representative  Madden  in   particular.  He                                                               
reviewed areas  that need additional  attention: the name  of the                                                               
commission, issues  on methodology, issues related  to assessment                                                               
of  risks  and needs,  and  the  assessment of  the  programmatic                                                               
approach.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  DYSON expressed  appreciation  that many  of the  people                                                               
here  today are  here because  they  care, and  not because  it's                                                               
their job.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:52:22 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   COGHILL   said   he  would   look   very   carefully   at                                                               
implementation and while it is outside  the scope of the bill, he                                                               
would also look at mitigation.  The first things to discuss would                                                               
be  the  PACE  Program,  conditional   driver's  license,  and  a                                                               
commission that deals with everything from sentencing to                                                                        
recidivism.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[SB 64 was held in committee.]                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:57:26 PM                                                                                                                    
There being no further business to come before the committees,                                                                  
Chair Coghill adjourned the joint meeting of the Senate and                                                                     
House Judiciary Standing Committees at 3:57 pm.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 64 FINAL Sponsor Statement Revised 6 19 2013.docx SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
SB 64 FINAL Sectional Revisd 6 19 2013.docx SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
SB 64 Version O.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
Anchorage PACE Preliminary Evaluation.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
SB 64 Evaluation of Anchorage Pilot PACE Program
THE CONSERVATIVE CASE FOR CORRECTIONS REFORM.docx SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
The Fiscal Case for Senate Bill 64.docx SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
SB 64
Kentucky Pew Aug2011.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
Akansas Pew Fact Sheet.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
How Texas Tackled Growing Prison Population.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
SB 64
JerryMaddenTestimonyMay2010.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
ISER Report - The Cost of Crime.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
State of the Judiciary Feb 2010.docx SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
High Cost, Low Return Infographic.jpg SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
Legislating for Results Evidence-based Corrections and Sentencing Policy.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
Florida Right on Crime Drug Court Infographic.jpg SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
UAA Justice Center of State Goverments -The Hidden Impact of a Criminal Conviction (2).pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
2012-07-Texas Public Policy - Framing the Right Policies to Cost Effectively Enhance Public Safety.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
Arizona Safe Communites Act Infographic.jpg SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
Texas Improving Crime Rates Infographic.jpg SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
Texas Recidivism Infographic.jpg SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
Justice Center - Justice Reinvestment 2011.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
State of the Judiciary 2011.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
State of the Judiciary 2012.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
NCSL Testimony by Alison Lawrence on SB 64.pdf SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM
DOC presentation on SB 64.pptx SJUD 7/25/2013 10:00:00 AM